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@chairborne @jonpas Thank you both for your help on Discord. I have updated the ticket to show FRIES systems in place on UH/MH-60 Blackhawks with external hoist hooks for SAR/Medevac missions as well. Several variants of US UH-60 helos are missing the ability to equip the FRIES system for fast roping with the ACE FRIES system. The FRIES system is known to be used on all UH-60 variants with the exception of the DAP variant which does not carry troops at all. Listed specifically under the Special Operations point at the bottom of the page: https://lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sikorsky-black-hawk-helicopter.html Shown in detail in the video linked here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-F2vhXfyME To show that the UH/MH-60 can use both the FRIES system and the hoist on the right side of the troop compartment. So it is feasible for both systems to be in place on the Blackhawk/Seahawk at the same time. http://sira-team.e-monsite.com/medias/images/1432546266-mh-60-black-hawk-fast-rope-hr.jpg http://geta-o.jp/LATEST/2015-07/2015-07-21/10-20274(160SOAR)MH-60M-11804-049-W.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tj5_ISels4/TdknySlreAI/AAAAAAAAEHk/vEv1NwHkGOE/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25286%2529.jpg https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/an-hh-60-pave-hawk-helicopter-crew-stocktrek-images.jpg Close up image of US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system in use and hoist overhead on helo as well...rope attached to FRIES: https://media.defense.gov/2015/Feb/23/2001137166/655/438/0/039244-Y-VRE59-224.jpg US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system and hoist: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/US_Navy_060531-N-8547M-002_Marines_assigned_to_1st_Fleet_Anti-Terrorism_team%2C_5th_Platoon%2C_Marine_Corps_Security_Force_Europe_fast_rope_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_the_Chargers_of_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadro.jpg SH-60 with troops fast roping onto deck of ship using FRIES: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7260/8164674949_51042330e9_b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxJqzXJXEAAxA63.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/U.S._Sailors_assigned_to_Explosive_Ordnance_Disposal_Mobile_Unit_%28EODMU%29_5_conduct_fast-rope_exercises_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadron_%28HSC%29_12_onto_the_flight_deck_130820-N-TP877-169.jpg HH-60 USAF with FRIES system extended: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fa/c1/d2fac1584db3db215836d3e5045004f5.jpg Images showing UH-60 helos without external hoist. https://i0.wp.com/addictivelists.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Black-Hawk-UH-60.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kHGAimlNgmU/TucwjGHBbCI/AAAAAAAABMA/SpnaBoPEohM/s1600/227171-Berserker.jpg Internal image of how FRIES rig is setup inside comparment of Blackhawk: Red rings for attachment points of ropes to the FRIES rig.... http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg http://www.arcair.com/AWA1/301-400/walk338_MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/31_rear_crew_compartment_2.JPG https://www.scalespot.com/walkaround/s70/image001.jpg http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/intruder_bass/444.jpg Fast Rope attached to FRIES bar inside helo: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7713/17194185960_d9a935b65f_b.jpg Saudi UH-60 with FRIES bar for fast roping: https://militaryedge.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/uh-60_saudi.jpg Another image of FRIES rig used for fast roping: https://www.skycoreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Black-Hawk-FRIES-1024x620.jpg USAF HH-60 with hoist for SAR and FRIES for fast rope; the FRIES bars are internal to the compartment and extend as needed. You can see it directly above the heads of the guys in the back. https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7315/26840548396_0cf1113810_b.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/56/09/f9560933d3ce447e60a50873fc18e135.jpg Image for the FRIES system in a UH-60. This time showing the extra internal fuel tanks also added with the FRIES bar system (look for red hook up points) which extend out to allow fast ropes to be dropped down on each side of the helo. http://www.arcair.com/awa01/301-400/awa338-MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/22_fuel_tank.JPG MH-60L from the 160th sitting outside with FRIES bars extended and ropes already attached: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XDm9qerYrIg/Tdkn19wMHSI/AAAAAAAAEH4/pkOoYbP1TSY/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25288%2529.jpg(edited)

@chairborne @jonpas Thank you both for your help on Discord. I have updated the ticket to show FRIES systems in place on UH/MH-60 Blackhawks with external hoist hooks for SAR/Medevac missions as well. Several variants of US UH-60 helos are missing the ability to equip the FRIES system for fast roping with the ACE FRIES system. The FRIES system is known to be used on all UH-60 variants with the exception of the DAP variant which does not carry troops at all. Listed specifically under the Special Operations point at the bottom of the page: https://lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sikorsky-black-hawk-helicopter.html [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-F2vhXfyME | Shown in detail in the video linked here ]]. To show that the UH/MH-60 can use both the FRIES system and the hoist on the right side of the troop compartment; as the hoist is higher on the airframe and in front of where the FRIES comes out of the crew compartment. So it is feasible for both systems to be in place on the Blackhawk/Seahawk at the same time. [[ http://geta-o.jp/LATEST/2015-07/2015-07-21/10-20274(160SOAR)MH-60M-11804-049-W.jpg | Better view of locations of hoist and FRIES bar location. ]] [[ http://sira-team.e-monsite.com/medias/images/1432546266-mh-60-black-hawk-fast-rope-hr.jpg | FRIES in use with hoist shown to right and above the FRIES bar. ]] [[ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tj5_ISels4/TdknySlreAI/AAAAAAAAEHk/vEv1NwHkGOE/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25286%2529.jpg | MH-60 DAP Variant should NOT have FRIES options. ]] [[ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fa/c1/d2fac1584db3db215836d3e5045004f5.jpg | HH-60 coming in on fast rope exercise with FRIES extended]]. [[ https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/an-hh-60-pave-hawk-helicopter-crew-stocktrek-images.jpg | USAF Pedro HH-60 with FRIES extended on left side of aircraft]]. [[ https://media.defense.gov/2015/Feb/23/2001137166/655/438/0/039244-Y-VRE59-224.jpg | Close up image of US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system in use and hoist overhead on helo as well...rope attached to FRIES ]]. [[ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/US_Navy_060531-N-8547M-002_Marines_assigned_to_1st_Fleet_Anti-Terrorism_team%2C_5th_Platoon%2C_Marine_Corps_Security_Force_Europe_fast_rope_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_the_Chargers_of_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadro.jpg | US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system and hoist ]]. [[ https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7260/8164674949_51042330e9_b.jpg | SH-60 with troops fast roping onto deck of ship using FRIES ]]. [[ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxJqzXJXEAAxA63.jpg | Better view of SH-60 with FRIES and hoist on right side of helo ]]. [[ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/U.S._Sailors_assigned_to_Explosive_Ordnance_Disposal_Mobile_Unit_%28EODMU%29_5_conduct_fast-rope_exercises_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadron_%28HSC%29_12_onto_the_flight_deck_130820-N-TP877-169.jpg | Maybe the best view of the FRIES bar extended on the right side of an SH-60 doing fast rope exercise ]]. All UH-60 helos can have the external hoist removed as referenced below. [[ https://i0.wp.com/addictivelists.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Black-Hawk-UH-60.jpg | No external hoist seen on US Army UH-60. ]] [[ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kHGAimlNgmU/TucwjGHBbCI/AAAAAAAABMA/SpnaBoPEohM/s1600/227171-Berserker.jpg | Other nations UH-60 without hoist attached as well. ]] Internal image of how FRIES rig is setup inside comparment of Blackhawk: [[ http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg | Red rings for attachment points of ropes to the FRIES rig. ]] [[ http://www.arcair.com/AWA1/301-400/walk338_MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/31_rear_crew_compartment_2.JPG | Internal image of FRIES in MH-60. ]] [[ https://www.scalespot.com/walkaround/s70/image001.jpg | Foreign S-70 variant of UH-60 with FRIES internal attachments. ]] [[ https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7713/17194185960_d9a935b65f_b.jpg | Fast Rope attached to FRIES bar inside helo. ]] [[ https://militaryedge.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/uh-60_saudi.jpg | Saudi UH-60 with FRIES bar for fast roping: ]] [[ https://www.skycoreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Black-Hawk-FRIES-1024x620.jpg | HH-60 with FRIES in use on both sides of aircraft simultaneously. ]] [[ http://www.arcair.com/awa01/301-400/awa338-MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/22_fuel_tank.JPG | Image for the FRIES system in a UH-60 with additional internal fuel tanks. ]] This is NOT A DAP unlike the name of the photo states. [[ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XDm9qerYrIg/Tdkn19wMHSI/AAAAAAAAEH4/pkOoYbP1TSY/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25288%2529.jpg | MH-60L from the 160th sitting outside with FRIES bars extended and ropes already attached]]

@chairborne @jonpas Thank you both for your help on Discord. I have updated the ticket to show FRIES systems in place on UH/MH-60 Blackhawks with external hoist hooks for SAR/Medevac missions as well. Several variants of US UH-60 helos are missing the ability to equip the FRIES system for fast roping with the ACE FRIES system. The FRIES system is known to be used on all UH-60 variants with the exception of the DAP variant which does not carry troops at all. Listed specifically under the Special Operations point at the bottom of the page: https://lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sikorsky-black-hawk-helicopter.html Shown in detail in the video linked here:[[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-F2vhXfyME | Shown in detail in the video linked here ]]. To show that the UH/MH-60 can use both the FRIES system and the hoist on the right side of the troop compartment.; as the hoist is higher on the airframe and in front of where the FRIES comes out of the crew compartment. So it is feasible for both systems to be in place on the Blackhawk/Seahawk at the same time. http://sira-team.e-monsite.com/medias/images/1432546266-mh-60-black-hawk-fast-rope-hr.jpg http://geta-o.jp/LATEST/2015-07/2015-07-21/10-20274(160SOAR)MH-60M-11804-049-W.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tj5_ISels4/TdknySlreAI/AAAAAAAAEHk/vEv1NwHkGOE/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25286%2529.jpg[[ http://geta-o.jp/LATEST/2015-07/2015-07-21/10-20274(160SOAR)MH-60M-11804-049-W.jpg | Better view of locations of hoist and FRIES bar location. ]] https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/an-hh-60-pave-hawk-helicopter-crew-stocktrek-images.jpg Close up image of US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system in use and hoist overhead on helo as well...rope attached to FRIES:[[ http://sira-team.e-monsite.com/medias/images/1432546266-mh-60-black-hawk-fast-rope-hr.jpg | FRIES in use with hoist shown to right and above the FRIES bar. ]] https://media.defense.gov/2015/Feb/23/2001137166/655/438/0/039244-Y-VRE59-224.jpg[[ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tj5_ISels4/TdknySlreAI/AAAAAAAAEHk/vEv1NwHkGOE/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25286%2529.jpg | MH-60 DAP Variant should NOT have FRIES options. ]] US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system and hoist:[[ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fa/c1/d2fac1584db3db215836d3e5045004f5.jpg | HH-60 coming in on fast rope exercise with FRIES extended]]. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/US_Navy_060531-N-8547M-002_Marines_assigned_to_1st_Fleet_Anti-Terrorism_team%2C_5th_Platoon%2C_Marine_Corps_Security_Force_Europe_fast_rope_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_the_Chargers_of_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadro.jpg[[ https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/an-hh-60-pave-hawk-helicopter-crew-stocktrek-images.jpg | USAF Pedro HH-60 with FRIES extended on left side of aircraft]]. SH-60 with troops fast roping onto deck of ship using FRIES:[[ https://media.defense.gov/2015/Feb/23/2001137166/655/438/0/039244-Y-VRE59-224.jpg | Close up image of US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system in use and hoist overhead on helo as well...rope attached to FRIES ]]. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7260/8164674949_51042330e9_b.jpg[[ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/US_Navy_060531-N-8547M-002_Marines_assigned_to_1st_Fleet_Anti-Terrorism_team%2C_5th_Platoon%2C_Marine_Corps_Security_Force_Europe_fast_rope_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_the_Chargers_of_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadro.jpg | US Navy SH-60 with FRIES system and hoist ]]. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxJqzXJXEAAxA63.jpg[[ https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7260/8164674949_51042330e9_b.jpg | SH-60 with troops fast roping onto deck of ship using FRIES ]]. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/U.S._Sailors_assigned_to_Explosive_Ordnance_Disposal_Mobile_Unit_%28EODMU%29_5_conduct_fast-rope_exercises_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadron_%28HSC%29_12_onto_the_flight_deck_130820-N-TP877-169.jpg HH-60 USAF with FRIES system extended:[[ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxJqzXJXEAAxA63.jpg | Better view of SH-60 with FRIES and hoist on right side of helo ]]. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fa/c1/d2fac1584db3db215836d3e5045004f5.jpg[[ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/U.S._Sailors_assigned_to_Explosive_Ordnance_Disposal_Mobile_Unit_%28EODMU%29_5_conduct_fast-rope_exercises_from_an_MH-60S_Seahawk_helicopter_assigned_to_Helicopter_Sea_Combat_Squadron_%28HSC%29_12_onto_the_flight_deck_130820-N-TP877-169.jpg | Maybe the best view of the FRIES bar extended on the right side of an SH-60 doing fast rope exercise ]]. Images showingAll UH-60 helos withoutcan have the external hoist removed as referenced below. [[ https://i0.wp.com/addictivelists.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Black-Hawk-UH-60.jpg | No external hoist seen on US Army UH-60. ]] [[ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kHGAimlNgmU/TucwjGHBbCI/AAAAAAAABMA/SpnaBoPEohM/s1600/227171-Berserker.jpg | Other nations UH-60 without hoist attached as well. ]] Internal image of how FRIES rig is setup inside comparment of Blackhawk: Red rings for attachment points of ropes to the FRIES rig.... http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg http://www.arcair.com/AWA1/301-400/walk338_MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/31_rear_crew_compartment_2.JPG https://www.scalespot.com/walkaround/s70/image001.jpg http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/intruder_bass/444.jpg[[ http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/awa01/601-700/awa609-HH-60-Provenzano/17.jpg | Red rings for attachment points of ropes to the FRIES rig. ]] Fast Rope attached to FRIES bar inside helo: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7713/17194185960_d9a935b65f_b.jpg[[ http://www.arcair.com/AWA1/301-400/walk338_MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/31_rear_crew_compartment_2.JPG | Internal image of FRIES in MH-60. ]] Saudi UH-60 with FRIES bar for fast roping: https://militaryedge.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/uh-60_saudi.jpg[[ https://www.scalespot.com/walkaround/s70/image001.jpg | Foreign S-70 variant of UH-60 with FRIES internal attachments. ]] Another image of FRIES rig used for fast roping: https://www.skycoreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Black-Hawk-FRIES-1024x620.jpg USAF HH-60 with hoist for SAR and FRIES for fast rope; the FRIES bars are internal to the compartment and extend as needed[[ https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7713/17194185960_d9a935b65f_b.jpg | Fast Rope attached to FRIES bar inside helo. You can see it directly above the heads of the guys in the back.]] [[ https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7315/26840548396_0cf1113810_b.jpgmilitaryedge.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/uh-60_saudi.jpg | Saudi UH-60 with FRIES bar for fast roping: ]] https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/56/09/f9560933d3ce447e60a50873fc18e135.jpg Image for the FRIES system in a UH-60[[ https://www.skycoreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Black-Hawk-FRIES-1024x620.jpg | HH-60 with FRIES in use on both sides of aircraft simultaneously. This time showing the extra internal fuel tanks also added with the FRIES bar system (look for red hook up points) which extend out to allow fast ropes to be dropped down on each side of the helo. ]] [[ http://www.arcair.com/awa01/301-400/awa338-MH-60L/images_Everett_McEwan/22_fuel_tank.JPG | Image for the FRIES system in a UH-60 with additional internal fuel tanks. ]] MH-60L from the 160th sitting outside with FRIES bars extended and ropes already attached:This is NOT A DAP unlike the name of the photo states. [[ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XDm9qerYrIg/Tdkn19wMHSI/AAAAAAAAEH4/pkOoYbP1TSY/s1600/MH-60L+DAP+Helicopter+%25288%2529.jpg(edited)jpg | MH-60L from the 160th sitting outside with FRIES bars extended and ropes already attached]]